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fibiray
08-18-2007, 12:09 AM
For many years in AA I have always been encouraged to partake in service at some level. I may not so much get involved with the central service office or the head office in my local area as I find these too political, but I have always been proned to put my hand up to do the secretary of groups, the treasure or simply give a hand in setting up the meeting or washing up afterwards. I am staggered these days at the amount of people that belong to the will not do club. There are so many these days that come into aa and expect the meetings to be open, the coffee to be on and if it is not they are the first to complain. All too often you see the same people doing these tasks while others rely on the "its up to the older sober members to do it" approach. AA gave me a life, a life that should have ended 20 years ago, I dont think it is much to ask. While many of the older sober members are getting older in age, and moving away, who will open the doors for the new comer if these people don't do it? On the other hand we have the opposite thing happening with certain members becoming so involved in the head office or central service office and who become so active in service they do nothing about their program and ultimately we have sick individuals running the so called show. Their egos and pride are hurt if challenged and they have the potential to do a lot of damage particularly for the newcomers. I believe that humility is not a suggested thing but a must. One such member has introduced court cards to those who are facing court for relevant criminal offenses and these people are coming in as a means of escaping jail. I am not so opposed to this however, when a secretary must sign their name on a card where is the anonymity and how accountable is the secretary. This has caused much controversy in the fellowship because we have had men standing over women to have their cards signed at the beginning of the meeting so the individual can take off before the meeting is underway. I myself was challenged as a secretary when a fellow turned up 5 minutes before the meeting closed to have his court card signed. I refused at the time because for all I knew he could have been out doing an armed robbery and to put my name on a court card would have given him an alibi.
Service for me has been the foundation of my sobriety and I have had to learn about getting a balance. This includes putting up my hand to contribute to not just the fellowship but my own recovery and it has also meant saying no at times when I tend to take too much on. Service may also include turning up at meetings and sharing openly and honestly and extending the hand of friendship to the newcomer. It was the human kindness that attracted me back to aa and it is something that I try and apply today. There should be no guilt applied for not doing service but also nor should I rest on my laurels neither. thats me.

peajaye
08-18-2007, 01:07 AM
You are certainly correct. The courtcards as you call them have been around here for years. We announce at the beginning of the meeting they will be signed at the end of the meeting. In all honesty though, they could just as easily have their friends sign them as I have known some to do.

I think you were correct to stand your ground with the "bloke" that spent 5 minutes at the meeting. I respect your shares, they are always so honest, open and full of treasures.

Monday is my 20th anniversary and I once again am not entirely in AA. I go to a few meetings, here and there but my recovery is mostly right here. Every day I check in with other recovering folks and as you said, we are able to share here on a deeper level than in f2f meetings. I do sponsor a couple girls...one calls one doesn't so I guess I really only sponsor one so I meet up with her occasionally at meetings at least every week or two.

eve3
08-18-2007, 07:42 AM
hello yes good topic indeed,i have been the secretary of my home group for over 2 years now,it keeps me tuned in go in early set up the tables literture,keychains etc,weve had the same coffe maker for 12 yrs people here say they will help but dont show up on a regular basis......what we do with the court slips is our mtg starts at 630 so all court slips must be turned in by 645 the latest,@that time is when were doing all the reading so it dosnt interrupt to much,i have a stamp and i sighn also,our secretarys reports reads you can have your court slips back afetr the serenity prayer,and for the most part they listen,my signature has been around along time so programs no when its forged :lol:theyve even given out restrictions to some people for forging it,but thats here,what about group busines mtg,so u can come to an agreement? any ways have a great day in recovery eve i still sit up front in the intensive care unit,gotta get what i need

fibiray
08-18-2007, 09:12 AM
Wow what wonderful feed back thanks greg and eve some really sound suggestions there that I will bring up my meeting. PJ as always love reading your shares. The court cards are not very old thing that has occured in the past 10 years and they only happen on the central coast of nsw. To my knowledge they are not done anywhere else in Australia so that is why they are somewhat controversial. thanks again for the shares.

fibiray
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