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Ed C.
09-01-2007, 06:29 AM
“The Rocky Road”

We have traveled a rocky road, there is no mistake about that. We have had long rendezvous with hurt pride, frustration, self-pity, misunderstanding and fear. These are not pleasant companions. We have been driven to maudlin sympathy, to bitter resentment. Some of us veered from extreme to extreme, ever hoping that one day our loved ones would be themselves once more. “Alcoholics Anonymous” “To Wives (and husbands too)” page 104 &105.


If any of you have read my “stuff”, you know that I pick out certain quotes from the Big Book and write commentary on them. I have frustrated some of the best by taking a small bit of a sentence and expanding my thoughts about a certain thing in that sentence. Some have accused me of not sticking to the Big Book or the values of Alcoholics Anonymous sometimes when I write these things. I say so what!?!?

But this subject here I will stick right to subject on . See as a result of my alcoholism I have caused many people who have been close to me to travel down a very rocky road. It has literally taken years for some of them to see that I indeed have come around to being “myself” once more. But who blames them? Well it’s like this, we do.

There are very few times in my life that I can remember not thinking that I was right about everything I did. I was very stubborn in the fact that if I wanted something I would do about anything to get it. If it didn’t happen right away I would pout, stomp my feet, throw a temper tantrum, and sometimes get so mean that I caused great fear in those who had to put up with my behavior.

As a part of all this juvenile behavior I also used extreme prejudice in making most of the moves I made in doing about anything. This caused a lot of misunderstanding and sometimes there wasn’t any misunderstanding at all. What I was causing though was a lot of confusion. Confusion that caused much harm to those people who cared for me and believed in me. Even when I made the decision to become sober, I knew no different way to act, and proclaimed that I had to do what I was doing for myself.

The rocky road we put these poor people on was built on our selfishness and self-centeredness. Putting self in front of others. Only caring for #1 and not giving a **** what our actions were doing to the other people who had to put up with us.

So all of a sudden we make the decision to stop drinking. Wow! We have made a move that finally made sense. So in using our same old way of thinking we expect those around us to understand what we are doing now. We expect all though we have started to see things get better for us right away, that everything is going to get better for those who we dragged down the road to hell. Well it doesn’t! That's why this little ditty of a sentence made it’s way into the Big Book. Just to help those who have had the crap beat out of them with our alcoholism maybe understand a little bit about what’s going on.

They’ve seen it all from the violent temper tantrums, to the sniveling pity parties that we’ve thrown just because things weren’t going our way. They have bent over backwards just in knowing that somewhere deep inside their loved one was someone that they once recognized and hoped that one day that loving and caring person would return.

Problem being is there is that misconception. That we alcoholics and drug addicts will return to some type of recognizable version of the way we used to be. I’m here to tell you that it doesn’t work that way. We too have dragged ourselves down a long and bumpy road. That path will never lead back to where we once were. The only way we are going to be able to make things better is by smoothing out the road for everyone.

Yes we have to work on ourselves to make this thing work, we also have to remember that we are doing this not only for ourselves, but for those who have had to put up with all of our BS throughout our drinking careers. They cannot be left out of the equation.

So how do we do this? Do we set out to make apologies for what we have put these poor people through? Well chances are they won’t even hear it from you? They have heard you say you’re sorry more times than they can count. The steps say we must make amends, it doesn’t say we have to make apologies. To make amends we have to make things better. That is what making amends means!

We can’t just sit there and say we are going to make things better, we have to actually get to work and do something about it. Just like any road work, we have to get out there and smooth out the road. If we want that road to never get rocky again we have to build a better road. You can’t build a better road using the same old material. The new material we use is provided by a God of our understanding. This road is going to be built on the basis of show, not tell.

coalminer
09-01-2007, 02:57 PM
The steps say we must make amends, it doesn’t say we have to make apologies. To make amends we have to make things better. That is what making amends means!

The new material we use is provided by a God of our understanding. This road is going to be built on the basis of show, not tell.

Ed:

Thank you!!!

coalminer
09-01-2007, 03:09 PM
PS:


DannyD(Today)


hmm, that name looks familiar....is it???....could it be???

:162: :idea: :eek:

maybe, nahhhh???......well, maybe.......

Just in case it is.....WELCOME BACK

:85: :tongue: :195:
to the "wayward son"......

you know where I hang my hat.....when you get some time....

come by my block....:1:

rockydeedee
09-01-2007, 03:42 PM
We can’t just sit there and say we are going to make things better, we have to actually get to work and do something about it. Just like any road work, we have to get out there and smooth out the road. If we want that road to never get rocky again we have to build a better road. You can’t build a better road using the same old material. The new material we use is provided by a God of our understanding. This road is going to be built on the basis of show, not tell.

I love that!! Thank you so much for sharing! :1:

Ed C.
09-01-2007, 05:25 PM
Quote:
DannyD(Today)

hmm, that name looks familiar....is it???....could it be???



maybe, nahhhh???......well, maybe.......

I think it is!?!? Maybe?!?! I don't know?!?!? Ed C.

DannyD
09-02-2007, 07:26 PM
Hi Henry Ed and Mark,

Yeppers Henry, It that stubborn DannyD.

Well, you haven't changed the way you post those animated smiles haha.. always puts a big smile on my face, when you post. Thanks Henry.

And Ed, Thanks for posting... I enjoy reading your writings very much.

Well it has certainly been a rocky road for me, and she's still rocky... but you know, the anger is not there anymore, I've been learning to accept people for who they are and what they say, and I think that as soon as I started to do that, I started to hear more, and listen better... so I guess I've finally taken the cotton out of my ears and put it my mouth as they say.

Of course all of this wouldn't have happen without trusting in my HP and handing it over, I've been doing that allot lately and it has never failed me, and I believe it will never fail me.

I've been to a few meetings, but I'm certainly not a meeting maker. I always seem to have good intensions on going and come Thursday night I seem to always find a reason why I wont or can't. I still don't have a sponsor, haven't done a 4th and I've relapsed more then I wish to share.

I have been reading the BB and tons of AA literature from many sources over the Internet... Living Sober is a great book that I read online allot. and a friend 3000 miles away that I've never met in real life sent me a ton of old cassette tapes all AA speakers... so I've been listening to them too.

I'm still living in the middle of nowhere, no license or car, Job is getting allot more manageable now, and I remember what I'm suppose to do or what I said I will be doing, I find that I'm becoming more creative and I'm never in a rush to finish like I was before... anyway...that's where am at. I'm sober today and I have no other plans.

Thanks guys, hope all is well with you.


Love,
DD

ps. I look forward in continuing to read your messages Ed, ((( )))

Ed C.
09-03-2007, 07:02 AM
Hey Danny,

It's good the hear from you again. I keep hearing from others in this program that if you keep on coming back that things get better for you. Spiritual progress, not spiritual perfection, ya know.

In keeping on subject with my response to you, I will share with you my experience about the idea of making meetings with no car, a job that at best was demanding on my time, and living as far as on could possibly live from where the meetings were. The rocky road that became my life after making the decision to become sober.

See we sort of expect things to change right away when we stop doing whatever we were doing. Well in my experience it really doesn't happen that way. I knew that I had to find a way to make these meetings by hell or high water.

Because of what had happened previous to my quitting I had no licence and had to take the bus where ever I went. It was a very demeaning venture to say the least, but I had found from going to rehab and making at least 2-3 meetings a day that I had to swallow my pride and start getting up off my ass and working with other alcoholics if I were going to stay sober.

The staff at rehab and the people I met at the meetings (including my sponsor) told me that 90 meetings in 90 days was a great idea since I had no idea on how to act outside of being stoned or drunk all of the time. Well I made that my goal Danny, I used my stubborness and tenation to go to work, take the bus to the meeting, and ask someone at the meeting to give me a ride home after. 90 days turned into 365 very quickly.

I don't believe I missed a meeting in one whole year and started to become involved in A.A. as far as chairing meetings and sponsoring other people who were coming in the same way I did. Didn't matter if it were rain or shine I made it to the meetings with my Big Book in my hand. And ya know what Danny? I didn't relapse one time! Hell I didn't have time to relapse.

It was during this time in my life that I found out that none of this was about "me", it was about working with others and putting them in front of "me" that was keeping "me" sober.

Slowly but surely I soon found that I was thinking on a different plain of thought the more I worked the steps. I had to buy into the program to have it work. Instead of saying Higher Power, I started using the word God to describe the entity I was tapping power from. When He started working through me people started to see it. They saw the change! That was they started thinking that it could be possible that ol' Ed might just be serious about what he was doing and might actually telling the truth this time.

No, I don't make it to many meetings anymore and I have stopped sponsoring people, but I have made it my goal to spread the word of a spiritual experience through other avenues of media and direct contact with others. I don't just stop with alcoholics either, I carry the message to all. I think it's really that important!

In a couple more months Danny I will celebrating eight years without a drink, a drug, and seven and a half years without a cigarette, all because of this program. I have found this program is not about me, it's about us! All of us!

Congrats on being sober Danny. I'm looking forward to many more days of talking about it! With love and respect, Ed C.

Bruce T.
09-04-2007, 11:02 AM
I gain more from sponsorship than do my "sponsees". And I attend all (both two of them) AA meetings in my small town. I could not make it, excepting of course for God's grace, without this active participation. I'm not cured. All I have is a daily reprieve dependent on the fitness of my spiritual condition.

-b

coalminer
09-04-2007, 04:29 PM
I am a little thrown with this:

"No, I don't make it to many meetings anymore and I have stopped sponsoring people"

Hi Greg:

Wow....I was thrown with a big "remember when" in seeing this:

It actually for me seems humorous in the here and now; but did not at the time....

Let me explain...for those who are reading this and might not be aware of my current circumstances...

I am a "mature" (?) as in chronological age "junior senior"...who because of numerous health issues - is "homebound" most of the time....

Blessed with the ability to enjoy mostly "good" days (anyday above ground makes for a good day) and "better" days...when my get up and go is able to actually allow me to make it past the BB (bed & bath) to the great outdoors.

Sometime ago, in the process of doing that - on a beautiful warm and sunny afternoon; I proceeded to take a very slow, enjoyable "walk around my block" and let me tell you it is a short one....

In the process of watching people go by; I am really surprised to observe at a distance....an uncanny number of people....that "seem" to look very familiar...hmm, I think - that's unusual...how can I know all of these people...why do so many people look so familiar....

It's one of those cases where you look - and you think...hmm, I "know" them
I "think"....but I'm not really sure...they sure look familiar....and why so many of them - in such a short distance....

And lo and behold, as I turn the corner....and proceed to walk past the Funeral Home...standing at the front entrance are a few people...just leaving the building....and I think - OH LORD....I do know these people...but do they ever look different....

Then all of a sudden a woman calls out: Henry, Oh My God....is that you???

She recognizes me...and I her (somewhat) but I am embarrassed because I can't remember her name....and she does look "different" - as I have not seen her in a few years....

And I look different not only because I am just a "little" aged...but have lost about 70 lbs. over the last while....

She then proceeds to tell me - without my asking - about poor "Joe" - the poor soul, she says....20 years of sobriety....a pillar of the AA community...and he does "that" - who would ever know....poor soul...

On and on she goes....then she changes the subject....to....

And you...you look so.....(silence).....well, it's been such a long time since I have seen you; where have you been???

My response: and this is the punch line:

I don't go to meetings anymore and have had to stop sponsoring people

Upon which she jumped right in with:

That's OK dear, we all slip once in a while....you know that you are welcome back - whenever you are ready to start over again.

I thank the God of my understanding....that I simply was too "huffed and puffed" out....too very tired....to even allow my emotions to run reign on her...

Then simply thanked her for her invitation....and slowly walked away....

along the rocky road of recovery - wherein lies a few "potholes"...all we have to do is "step around them"....

Go figure, eh....

Ed C.
09-05-2007, 06:45 PM
Hi Guys,

Originally Posted by greg
I am a little thrown with this:

"No, I don't make it to many meetings anymore and I have stopped sponsoring people"

I response to your concern: I have not turned my back on working intensly with other alcoholics. In fact it seems to me that I probably work more with people of addiction than I did before I slowed down on the meetings.

Greg I have been sober now for over seven and a half years. I have been to so many meetings that I started to get burned out on them. I started to hear the same old things at the meetings and really got tired of how everyone's day went instead of hearing what I went to the meetings for. That was to spread the word of a spirtual experience as a result of the steps. I would bring that up and very few people responded to it.

As far as my sponsees. I have a few that really don't need very much of my attention. They are doing their own things now and sponsoring other people themselves. If someone needs help, I'm there day or night at the ring of the phone.

Don't get me wrong though. I still go to meetings, but I cruise around quite a bit now. I have several meetings at different places and different times that I really enjoy going to. Reason being is they pull out the Big Book and do some real down to Earth studying from it.

As of late though I have been very busy with work. Sure I know a lot of people think that work should be secondary to sobriety, but it's when you are able to combine the whole package that you know A.A. has worked pretty well in your life.

As part of my service I administrate another recovery website. I also write my columns that I post in here. I work with the homeless that are with-in my neighborhood, and I field at least one or two "could you please talk to my loved one about his or her problem" a month.

So probabaly the best way I can wrap this up in a nice tight ball is: Dude I'm living life as it comes to me and I'm staying sober on God's terms. It don't matter what anyone else thinks about how I should do it. I'm just doin' it! I really do appreciate your concern for me, but hey man I doin' just great! With love and respect, Ed C.

admin
09-05-2007, 07:09 PM
I'm living life as it comes to me and I'm staying sober on God's terms. It don't matter what anyone else thinks about how I should do it. I'm just doin' it!

Amen! :85:

Bruce T.
09-05-2007, 09:56 PM
Hey, Ed.

Whatever works for you works for you, and that's what matters.

But to share my experience, when I was so actively involved with that men's residential recovery center for 8 yrs., I began, most unconsciously, to drift away. It landed me getting drunk, fired, in a detox and two visits to a psych hospital and living on the streets of San Ant'o as a full blown street wino until last November.

Not to say I even think this is what would happen to you. You are much more stable than I. I'm just concerned that someone looking for an excuse to pick back up again could willfully read into your posting an excuse to let go of his/her program.

Love and respect,

-b