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dalin
10-19-2007, 01:21 AM
What happened to the fellowship that I used to know?

What happened to the fellowship that I used to know?

Why I slipped away from the fellowship of the Narcotics Anonymous Program.

I cleaned up in Northern California by Gestapos and purists in 1987. For this I am eternally grateful. I was not told that these ideals were suggested. I was told work the steps or die. I was told that I would get into service. And I was told, "I love just exactly as you are." So, I got a sponsor and worked my steps, got into service and grew to be a better person. I did service at every level up to area service lit review representative to region. That included cleaning ashtrays and making coffee. And I grew in more ways.
Then my ex-wife and I moved back home to Virginia. We began finding the meetings around our home. One was a mixed message twisted with treatment center and other twelve step-meeting lingo. This was not conducive to my recovery. I spoke to them all about the reason we have our own language and follow the Traditions with vigilance. We were thrown into the curb and told that they would do what they wanted. The next week I came armed with The Basic Text and told them how they were not following the traditions, as they needed to. Again I was thrown into the curb. There went one of the two meetings I has the resources to get to. I chose not to go to that meeting any longer, as it was not conducive to my recovery. Now it was 40 miles to two meetings a week on low financial resources. Meetings began to get scarce for me unless I traveled 150 miles to Charlotte, North Carolina. Then, the groups that I was able to get to decided they did not like the area they were in and wanted to do things differently. We decided to create a new area.
I was voted to be the vice-chair of this new area. I came from California and had different learning in service than in Virginia. Every time I said anything that did not fit into the way *they* were used to doing things, I was told that was not the way *they* were used to doing things here in Virginia. One area service meeting I had made a suggestion and was told, "That is the way they do things in California." That flew all over me and I began to cry and told them that *they* could have their area. I was followed out the door and hugged and told "sorry" about the things *they* were acting on. The groups in this area soon went back into the area that they left.
All these things worked together along with meeting people willing to teach me some of the Spirituality of my Native Heritage. This was a large step forward in my spiritual life. For several years I went to meetings when I went out of town. I went to several conventions during this time away from the fellowship. But I mostly stayed with a *family* of people that helped me to remember many tools for spiritual growth. I grew and grew so fast and this was wonderful. But, when it came time for change, this *family*, (that still are family to me), went on about their lives. We no longer met *regularly* like I know I need or I will forget the most important tools. This left me vulnerable.
Mystery (GOD if you must) put me in a path of a recovering addict again. He asked me to come to a meeting with him. He stopped in for dinner and then we went to a meeting in the area that I am now in. I made a decision to re-double my efforts in NA and my life. Now I do not feel turned on or pushed away. I am again doing all the things I *HAVE* to do (screw suggestions) in order to live free and grow spiritually. Meetings regularly, sponsor, sponcee, steps, sharing, functions, prayer are the things I must do. After re-doubling my efforts here in a new area and a new *home* for a couple of months, I realized that I am exactly where I am supposed to be at any given point in time, and that there are no coincidences. After a month of regular meetings, I felt my insides begin to cave in. But, I have all the tools at my disposal and am using them. The next right thing has stopped the downward spiral that was beginning. Now I am working with new comers and sharing often on how this program works for me, and the insides are getting better with each and every day.
I knew that even though I felt pushed away once, that I could return anytime I wanted. The one thing in my life that *IS* constant are meetings. So, I returned and I am again growing and loving this fellowship stronger. I am again in service and I cannot seem to get enough of this fellowship and program. Soon I will be doing another 90 in 90. Even after 16 years and one white chip, I still need and want this fellowship and program. I owe everything that is in my life to this program. Not just the stuff in my life but all the things I was helped with to remember. And this program only! I did not use a treatment facility to get treatment. I went to the street and got streetment.
Love&Light,
In Loving Service,
Brian YellowEyes




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dalin
10-19-2007, 01:23 AM
Ok a little History from this addicts point of view. When I got clean treatment centers were flooding the rooms of NA. "People did not recover in NA alone" You had to go to AA in oreder to have long term recovery. Going to AA meetings I heard them defend their message. Neal H. took me to many different meetings in NA and I meet many new people in NA. I was able to meet BO, Greg P. Motorcycle Ed. I learned that people did recover in NA and that NA had a differnt message. I HEARD IT. WOW >>>>>>>>> What an awakening.... I heard Larry North share at Chea ha and the 3rd paragraph read. A love affair was born. A love affair with this fellowship and our message. I wanted to share that.
In area service and knowing that we did not know everything we asked some of the above mentioned people, and others like Rick A., Tully, Susie, Mike, and others to come share in workshops about our message and how to preserve that message. We are not addicted to crosses, or polies, anda's or anything else. I wondered how I would be received, if I said hello, I am Grover, and I am a welder.... We learned and grew... We heard about inclusive service, leading by example, how our book was writen, and some of our phamplets..
We heard that addicts could somehow no longer write, the book was a fluke.. many other things were being done and said in that time period. We took a stand... If we are hurting what does our sponser tell us? Write! The lover was in jerpordy of being hurt... AN addict went to Motorcycle Eds home in Ga. and asked what we could do to bring healing, "if a fourth step heals, could we not do a fourth step in the form of history and heal..?" After prayer and thought, this was taken through the service structure and approved. The intent of the commitee was to gather facts. Interview people. Gather documents.. We knew that many people see one wreck from many differnt points of view. So to be honest, fair,, and searching, all ave's had to be researched . Through the same process of work that the Basic text was brought about, well, why would it not work for a History Book...
History can not be written from one persons point of view, or it is distorted, and perverted... Orsen Wells 1984........ Only those that fear the light, cling to the darkness.... Our disease does not want us to recover. I believe it is the same with the fellowship at large.
There are many facts to concider, We are an aging fellowship, many have passed since the work was started. I fear many more will before it is done. If ever..
As for me, The letter from WSO tell me that I was a disaffected member, a memeber following me into a parking lot and threating to beat me ass, memebers going to asc to asc, group to group, spreading lies and hate, the last RSC and the fight that broke out there, well, that was more than I could deal with.. I had been out of work for 2 years with a back injury.. Hungry, my sponsor betrayed a trust (my feelings) I pulled away from him.. My lover was being torn into, My heart was broke, and my spirit crushed. How could anything get to this.. Our disease does not want us to grow.
So, those that feel I quit, and ran, well I guess your right. Those that felt, my heart was broke and I needed to heal, well I guess you were right as well. NO one paid more than I did for that decision..
Bo has asked me to write my feelings down a couple of times. So hear it is. I am greatfull to still be sucking wind. I have not found it nessacery to use because of the tools the fellowship gave me... I am glad to see familuar faces, sad to know that some did not survive. I can only imagine the price that some others paid for their heart. There was a huge price paid by those that wrote our Basic Text, for free, paid for with blood sweat and tears,,, loss of families, jobs, homes, careers, and now so many take it for granted. It is sold for a huge profit and the fellowship at large is still under the illuision that addicts can't write....
By no means am I saying that everything is wrong, quite the contray. There are a lot of postive things going on... have gone on and yet to go on.... Buy is an inventory not both postive and negative.. Looking at the postive gets us through the negative..

Well thats my story and I'm sticking to it...
Gratefull to be alive and clean
Grover

dalin
10-19-2007, 01:26 AM
NWONA

Was talking on land line with GroverDude and told him of what I call the easier softer NA these days. I call it the New World Order Nacotics Anonymous. Grover told me to post this.
Are we producing a NWO fellowship? To call a spade a spade, A fellowship of diluted using clean addicts? I fail to see that using and clean go together. But some seem to think that they can go to a doctor and get something prescribed to take to *cope*. Then come to the meetings and talk about it. What is happening? What I was told was to work the steps to alter my mind and change my mood and the pysiological symtems would work themselves out in time. I did not use even when my ass was falling off and worked my steps to alieviate several things that were going on with my sick brain. NA brainwashed me to health. If I work my steps with vigilance I begin to think differently. In thinking differently, I have found that the chemical imbalances balance themselves out and I no longer feel depressed three out of four days. I feel that if I take something to *cope*, I will not be as vigilant as I could be *CLEAN*.
So please let me know if your area has the NWONA running amuck and diluting the NAWOL?
Thanks,
Your Brother In Recovery,
Brian YellowEyes

dalin
10-19-2007, 01:27 AM
Our message is the same but society attitudes have affected our fellowship. It seems that we all live in a kinder gentler world. You can watch TV and see references to NA and recovery in such programs as Law & Order and NYPD Blue to mention a few. I believe the public recognition has influenced our World Services and can be seen in the content of the literature that has been produced over the past few years. I want to be happy, joyous and free and for the most part I am. But I do not want to become the type of cookie cutter recovering addict that the Twelve-Step Guide and our other most recent literature implies that I should be. I do not wear polo shirts, don’t have a Palm pilot and don’t drive a BMW and probably will not go back to school and get my degree. No that those things are bad for you, they do not fit me. There is no model of a recovering addict other than we need to be clean, drug free, and trying to get better; become a better human being. While I am not a doctor and cannot determine whether it is ok for anyone to take medication, my 21 plus years of recovery tells me that addicts who take medication for an extended period of time usually don’t make it. It does not matter what it is, methadone, prosaic, whatever. And people with long term experience tell me the same thing. I think the real problem lies in the fact that as a fellowship we do not listen to the experience of others. Our disease tells us we are different. That what happened to you does not apply to me. Once it gets us looking at differences instead of similarities we are living in our disease. These past few years I have been through some of the toughest stuff of my life, clean or otherwise. I am sure from the outside looking in there were many who said if that what staying clean doing it my way got me then they did not want what I had. But you know what some how I made it through clean. I talked to my sponsor, wrote steps and did not use no matter what. My meeting attendance was and still is spotty at best. Some of that is on me and I will own it. There is a part that lies within the meetings and the insanity that lives within them. I do not have the answer. I have tried all the things I know, go to different meetings, go out of town, stand up and fight for what is right, and starting another meeting. All have failed. So I am writing and reading and listening. Being open-minded and as a friend says watching all like a movie waiting to see what happens. I believe in the principles of this program but am struggling to find away to include the fellowship as it stands today in my life. You guys are providing a way for me to look at these things and are opening the door for me to get back in.

dalin
11-03-2007, 09:27 PM
Good history stuff