Banned.

[paperscratcher27@gma]

This ought not to be so.
I am a Sober alchoholic living in florida.
I have lived on both coasts and have seen suffering alchoholics banned from meetings in both places.
From my understanding tradition means everything to us.
I am being told "They can go somewhere else."
and "This is not A.A. this is a club."
If I am trying to sponsor someone and I have them into the traditions and tradition nine clearly states that absolutely no group commity can ban a member from a meeting...
These people are homeless, sick and seeking help.
Who dares be judge, jury and executioner of his own sick brother? How can we condemn our brothers to a life of misery or even death?
If I were a new comer and I saw this hipocracy I would never trust A.A. - as a whole.
This must stop.
People are dying.
I sense that this is happening in more than in just these two "clubs".
If this is so than God save A.A.!
And we are all members.

[francie21805]

Hello and Welcome paperscater27!!
In my short time in the rooms, I have witnesses 3 male members who were ask to leave and one that was banned from our club. None were intoxicated!!! It was there behavior toward other members and their inability to follow meeting decorum that lead to these things. In fairness, these groups worked/talked with them for several weeks to no avail. Today, I see 3 of these four men back in the meetings and they are doing well.

Another Tradition that was constantly being pointed out to me, by my Sponsor, is Tradition 4. Part of the short form: “Each group manages its affairs as it pleases, except when A.A. as a whole is threatened. Is such liberty dangerous? The group, like the individual, must eventually conform to principles that guarantee survival.”

I hope this helps and I pray those who were banned/ask to leave will be back like the men I told you about.

Thank you.