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Clean42day
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Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 12:06 pm Post subject: why you feel how you feel
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Why You Feel How You Feel
by Robert M. Roerich, M.D.
Introduction
Among the Blind Pit Vipers of Life the One Eyed Snake is King
My job as a researcher is to help you understand your secret emotions. I do this by analyzing your answers in describing an imaginary journey. This is not a game. My work involves helping governments prevent suicide in their SWAT Police and Special Forces Military. If you want to be amused or read theories about stuff that can't be statistically proven, then go read some other article. If you want to take a look at those secret emotions only you know and learn about them then read on.
Your emotions and important life events are stored in memory as mental imagery. This is what pops in your head when you think about someone or something emotionally important to you. You can't help it. A mental image popped into your head when you read the title of this excerpt from my book WHY YOU FEEL HOW YOU FEEL. What does “Among the Blind Pit Vipers of Life the One Eyed Snake is King” make you think of? If you thought of sex you are normal. If you thought of being hurt, then you need to read my book. This may sound like a snap judgment, but in the world of emotions that is just how it is. You are either happy or sad, proud of yourself of ashamed, feeling loved by others or not. This is called primary process thinking. It is the mind of the child, who is a very emotional kid. We are all kids deep inside. As we grow older we are supposed to control our primal instincts and needs. Some of us do, and some of us don't. Some become upright citizens, some become criminals. Some live a happy life, others commit suicide or become murderers. It is all up to you, your choice.
Your mind only remembers the stuff that means something to you, not what you ate for breakfast last Tuesday. That is just how survivalist we are inside the most important organ of the body: the brain. No, not the other one! Mental imagery is like a movie of your life with all the sights and sounds of the important stuff. Why is this secret? Inside the mind are positive and negative emotions. Which teacher do you remember most from grade school? It is probably the teacher that created strong emotion within you. If this is a positive experience, like being praised or rewarded, your unconscious mind made note of it. But if you remember harsh words or punishment, then this is engraved in your memory. You remember the important events the most and if these are more negative than positive it is emotionally overwhelming. In order to function in everyday life you have to keep the negative emotions secret.
You will be surprised at what you can imagine and understand about your mental imagery hidden in your memory vault of emotions. Your emotions are your most valuable possessions. They are what make you unique. Even identical twins are different depending on what particular emotions each of them experience. This book is about you. It is your life story. You will understand why you feel how you feel just by looking at the mental picture or image you paint. You will discover 15 secrets about you that only you know.
The River
Questions 4-7 of the Roerich Psychodynamic Inventory (RPI)
Imagine that you are walking on a road. You come to a river that must be crossed.
There before you is a river; the size and width are up to you. You cannot go around it but must imagine a way to cross. Whatever you need to cross the river is already in your mind—just imagine seeing yourself do it.
4. How do you cross the river?
5. How clean is the water?
6. How fast is the current?
7. Is there anything in the water? If so, what?
NOTE: Answer these questions before reading ahead to understand what your mental imagery means. No cheating!
another note....I did this and wrote my answers down before I read any further................
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~Carl Bard
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The river is a sexual, fluid road of sorts on our journey through life. It can range from a clear stream or pristine beach to a muddy swamp. It may have living inhabitants or not, be narrow or wide, have slow currents or perilous rapids, or no movement at all. It is colored in different hues of light or dark and can be a place of pleasure or pain, depending on our emotional experiences in the sexual sphere of our lives.
What does sex have to do with a river?
The mind expresses sexual content on the RPI through images of water, with more water appearing on the journey among the sexually preoccupied. Some stages of life compel more sexual expression than others. Adolescence, because of the many changes brought about by puberty, focuses on sexual issues, which is normal. As we become adults, our level of sexual activity tends to decline due to physical changes, but the mind replays sexual scenarios if a need has gone unfulfilled or a sexual experience has occurred which is causing unresolved anxiety or stress.
In our subconscious mind, sex equals water, whether it is puddle, river, or ocean. Both have depth, direction, and force. The river may be a once-forded adventure or a frequent watering hole, a foreboding obstacle or a much-anticipated oasis.
Means of Crossing The River
What does the manner of crossing the river tell us?
How a person crosses the river illuminates aspects of trust in our most intimate relationships. If we completely trust, we get our feet wet, take the plunge. If there is concern or caution for some reason, then we distance ourselves from the water; we do not get our feet wet. We may choose to walk safely over a bridge, jump across the river, even fly! One person decided to board an airplane on one side of the river and fly to the other side. This person was feeling extreme aversion to sex, having been violently gang-raped.
The farther from the water, the less trust is present. We therefore show a certain degree of inhibition or not in our sexual relationships. Often times, trust is there initially, but may be lost if we are hurt in that intimate relationship. Letters of the alphabet are used to distinguish the different ways of crossing the river. An "A" crossing shows strong coping skills and minimal stress in this area, with an "F" crossing showing severe mistrust, poor coping skills, and high stress. What is your grade regarding sex or intimacy?
A. Uninhibited ways of crossing the river
• Swimming
• Wading
Note that there is contact with the water in both these examples. This person is trusting.
B. Mildly inhibited ways of crossing the river
• Walking on rocks – awareness of problems
• Walking on a fallen tree – victimization
• Walking on a log – focus on men or maleness
C. Moderate inhibition
• Boat, canoe, or other floating vessel
D. Marked inhibition
• Bridge
F. Extreme inhibition
• Jumping – significant avoidance of intimacy
• Flying – greatest avoidance of intimacy or sex
Water Color
The color of the water can describe additional feelings about our intimate relationships, as well as the particular circumstances of the sexual activity.
• Black – sadness
• Bloody – family problems
• Blue, clear – enjoyment
• Blue, murky – enjoyment with deception
• Fecal – depreciation and contamination
• Gray – confusion
• Muddy – depreciation and deception
Contents of the River Water
• Alligators – victimization
• Branches, twigs, leaves – victimization
• Fish
• Goldfish – pleasure and materialism
• Piranha – victimization
• Trout – pleasure
• Snakes – victimization, possibly intimate
• Snapping turtles – victimization
• Trash, litter – depreciation
River Current Speed
The speed of the current indicates the speed of the intimate relationship. Our involvement may have elements of caution or of spontaneity. Impulse, however, may bring pleasure at an emotional cost, especially when emotion overpowers reason.
Fast, white water – excitement with impulsiveness
Moderate current – excitement with some caution
Slow current – exploration with enjoyment
Stagnant – entrapment without enjoyment
Summary Template:
4. How do you cross the river?
Boat–am moderately inhibited
Bridge–am markedly inhibited
Flying over–am extremely inhibited and afraid of getting close to anyone
Jumping–am extremely inhibited
Riding a horse–am mildly inhibited but tend to trust men
Swimming–am trusting and uninhibited
Wading–am trusting and uninhibited
Walking on a fallen tree–am mildly inhibited and feel hurt by men
Walking on a log–am mildly inhibited and enjoy the company of men
Walking on rocks–am mildly inhibited and am aware of problems here
4. Concerning intimate or sexual matters, I_____________________.
The closer you are to the water the more you trust intimacy or sex. The farther away you are the more you fear or avoid intimacy with people.
5. What does the water look like?
Black – sadness
Bloody – someone's incest
Blue, clear – absolute enjoyment
Blue, murky – feeling deceived
Fecal – feeling depreciated and contaminated by someone
Gray – confusion
Muddy – feeling depreciated and deceived by someone
5. In the intimate or sexual sphere, I am dealing with issues of ________________________________.
6. How fast is the current? ________________________
Fast, white water – am impulsive and excited by it
Moderate – am excited but somewhat cautious
Slow – I enjoy it and take my time
Stagnant – I don't enjoy it because I feel trapped by someone
6. When I think of intimacy or sex, I ___________________________.
7. Is there anything in the water? If so, what? _________________________________________________
Alligator – that I am a victim of someone
Twigs, leaves – that I am a victim and a part of me is missing
Fish, goldfish – that sex is fun but has its price
Fish, piranha – that I am a victim of someone
Snakes – of someone being hurt by men
7. … and there are feelings__________________________.
Pleasant images describe pleasant feelings; the opposite is true, as well.
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this by no means an all inclusive profile in my opinion, but it did give me some interesting asecpts to consider> just wanted to share it.
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"Though no one can go back and make a brand new start, we can all start from now and make a brand new ending"
~Carl Bard
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you know clean, maybe im doing better than i think on this....maybe all these violent images of struggling to get away from a man who was trying to abuse me sexually when i was a child are just in my head...because when i did this visualization excercise in my head, i did ok. the water was clear, it was rushing, fast white water, very lound. kind of scary...i disregarded swimming because i knew that there was a perilous waterfall right downstream and i did not trust that i could make it....so i stepped over some big stones to get over. there was nothing else in the water other than lots of stones and boulders and rocks everywhere.
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I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing. John 15:5
He that getteth wisdom loveth his own soul: He that keepeth understanding shall find good. Proverbs 19:8
The Lord is close to the brokenhearted and saves those who are crushed in spirit. Psalm 34:18
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maybe those stones and rocks can be interpreted as stumbling blocks or stepping stones....your chooseing to use them as stepping stones tells me in my mind that you are no longer a victim but ready and willing to take your power back and use "stuggles" as a way to learn and grow into all you can be.
Free also be careful that you use this "overview" as a tool and not a be all end all conclusion. it is one of many ways to open the psyche. and should be explored as one of many pathways to healing. I am sure my answers 10 years ago would have revealed a very different picture....
and maybe 10 years from now yours will too. keep the faith that for right now you are exactly where you are suppose to be
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"Though no one can go back and make a brand new start, we can all start from now and make a brand new ending"
~Carl Bard
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I found your exercise above to be quite "to the point" about myself, particularly with the muddy water; "feeling depreciated and deciieved by someone", and twigs leaves in the water "that I am a vicitm and part of me is missing". The victim is something I have tried to work on many times as I am strongly aware that as long as I hold myself in the role of victim I cannot heal. I am a lot better and stronger about my sexual abuse issues than I used to be, hower I guess there is still some pretty deep rooted stuff I need to work on. I was abused by my father from the age of 4 until 12, was raped at 14 and again at 17. I was a very promiscous teenager and again during single times as an adult. Having thought about it in the here and now, I don't think those things of me upset me I think it's more to the point that they inhibited me emotionally and that is the area of me that stongly requires attention.
I learnt to use sex as a tool a long time ago, actually I used "MY body" as a tool a long time ago, probably because it was used as a tool by others first. My emotions are often stuck in the 12 to 15 year old bracket, I guess it was time I strongly worked at forgiveness of self and others to release that girl in me that is so hurt, so defensive and so very angry and full of rage.....I hide it well for ages then it blows out of control.
Anyway, thank's for letting me share.
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for every negative there is always a positive, seek and ye shall find it.................................
Optimism is essential to achievement and it is also the foundation of
courage and true progress.
-- Nicholas Murray Butler
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Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 12:06 pm Post subject: why you feel how you feel
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Why You Feel How You Feel
by Robert M. Roerich, M.D.
Introduction
Among the Blind Pit Vipers of Life the One Eyed Snake is King
My job as a researcher is to help you understand your secret emotions. I do this by analyzing your answers in describing an imaginary journey. This is not a game. My work involves helping governments prevent suicide in their SWAT Police and Special Forces Military. If you want to be amused or read theories about stuff that can't be statistically proven, then go read some other article. If you want to take a look at those secret emotions only you know and learn about them then read on.
Your emotions and important life events are stored in memory as mental imagery. This is what pops in your head when you think about someone or something emotionally important to you. You can't help it. A mental image popped into your head when you read the title of this excerpt from my book WHY YOU FEEL HOW YOU FEEL. What does “Among the Blind Pit Vipers of Life the One Eyed Snake is King” make you think of? If you thought of sex you are normal. If you thought of being hurt, then you need to read my book. This may sound like a snap judgment, but in the world of emotions that is just how it is. You are either happy or sad, proud of yourself of ashamed, feeling loved by others or not. This is called primary process thinking. It is the mind of the child, who is a very emotional kid. We are all kids deep inside. As we grow older we are supposed to control our primal instincts and needs. Some of us do, and some of us don't. Some become upright citizens, some become criminals. Some live a happy life, others commit suicide or become murderers. It is all up to you, your choice.
Your mind only remembers the stuff that means something to you, not what you ate for breakfast last Tuesday. That is just how survivalist we are inside the most important organ of the body: the brain. No, not the other one! Mental imagery is like a movie of your life with all the sights and sounds of the important stuff. Why is this secret? Inside the mind are positive and negative emotions. Which teacher do you remember most from grade school? It is probably the teacher that created strong emotion within you. If this is a positive experience, like being praised or rewarded, your unconscious mind made note of it. But if you remember harsh words or punishment, then this is engraved in your memory. You remember the important events the most and if these are more negative than positive it is emotionally overwhelming. In order to function in everyday life you have to keep the negative emotions secret.
You will be surprised at what you can imagine and understand about your mental imagery hidden in your memory vault of emotions. Your emotions are your most valuable possessions. They are what make you unique. Even identical twins are different depending on what particular emotions each of them experience. This book is about you. It is your life story. You will understand why you feel how you feel just by looking at the mental picture or image you paint. You will discover 15 secrets about you that only you know.
The River
Questions 4-7 of the Roerich Psychodynamic Inventory (RPI)
Imagine that you are walking on a road. You come to a river that must be crossed.
There before you is a river; the size and width are up to you. You cannot go around it but must imagine a way to cross. Whatever you need to cross the river is already in your mind—just imagine seeing yourself do it.
4. How do you cross the river?
5. How clean is the water?
6. How fast is the current?
7. Is there anything in the water? If so, what?
NOTE: Answer these questions before reading ahead to understand what your mental imagery means. No cheating!
another note....I did this and wrote my answers down before I read any further................
_________________
"Though no one can go back and make a brand new start, we can all start from now and make a brand new ending"
~Carl Bard
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The river is a sexual, fluid road of sorts on our journey through life. It can range from a clear stream or pristine beach to a muddy swamp. It may have living inhabitants or not, be narrow or wide, have slow currents or perilous rapids, or no movement at all. It is colored in different hues of light or dark and can be a place of pleasure or pain, depending on our emotional experiences in the sexual sphere of our lives.
What does sex have to do with a river?
The mind expresses sexual content on the RPI through images of water, with more water appearing on the journey among the sexually preoccupied. Some stages of life compel more sexual expression than others. Adolescence, because of the many changes brought about by puberty, focuses on sexual issues, which is normal. As we become adults, our level of sexual activity tends to decline due to physical changes, but the mind replays sexual scenarios if a need has gone unfulfilled or a sexual experience has occurred which is causing unresolved anxiety or stress.
In our subconscious mind, sex equals water, whether it is puddle, river, or ocean. Both have depth, direction, and force. The river may be a once-forded adventure or a frequent watering hole, a foreboding obstacle or a much-anticipated oasis.
Means of Crossing The River
What does the manner of crossing the river tell us?
How a person crosses the river illuminates aspects of trust in our most intimate relationships. If we completely trust, we get our feet wet, take the plunge. If there is concern or caution for some reason, then we distance ourselves from the water; we do not get our feet wet. We may choose to walk safely over a bridge, jump across the river, even fly! One person decided to board an airplane on one side of the river and fly to the other side. This person was feeling extreme aversion to sex, having been violently gang-raped.
The farther from the water, the less trust is present. We therefore show a certain degree of inhibition or not in our sexual relationships. Often times, trust is there initially, but may be lost if we are hurt in that intimate relationship. Letters of the alphabet are used to distinguish the different ways of crossing the river. An "A" crossing shows strong coping skills and minimal stress in this area, with an "F" crossing showing severe mistrust, poor coping skills, and high stress. What is your grade regarding sex or intimacy?
A. Uninhibited ways of crossing the river
• Swimming
• Wading
Note that there is contact with the water in both these examples. This person is trusting.
B. Mildly inhibited ways of crossing the river
• Walking on rocks – awareness of problems
• Walking on a fallen tree – victimization
• Walking on a log – focus on men or maleness
C. Moderate inhibition
• Boat, canoe, or other floating vessel
D. Marked inhibition
• Bridge
F. Extreme inhibition
• Jumping – significant avoidance of intimacy
• Flying – greatest avoidance of intimacy or sex
Water Color
The color of the water can describe additional feelings about our intimate relationships, as well as the particular circumstances of the sexual activity.
• Black – sadness
• Bloody – family problems
• Blue, clear – enjoyment
• Blue, murky – enjoyment with deception
• Fecal – depreciation and contamination
• Gray – confusion
• Muddy – depreciation and deception
Contents of the River Water
• Alligators – victimization
• Branches, twigs, leaves – victimization
• Fish
• Goldfish – pleasure and materialism
• Piranha – victimization
• Trout – pleasure
• Snakes – victimization, possibly intimate
• Snapping turtles – victimization
• Trash, litter – depreciation
River Current Speed
The speed of the current indicates the speed of the intimate relationship. Our involvement may have elements of caution or of spontaneity. Impulse, however, may bring pleasure at an emotional cost, especially when emotion overpowers reason.
Fast, white water – excitement with impulsiveness
Moderate current – excitement with some caution
Slow current – exploration with enjoyment
Stagnant – entrapment without enjoyment
Summary Template:
4. How do you cross the river?
Boat–am moderately inhibited
Bridge–am markedly inhibited
Flying over–am extremely inhibited and afraid of getting close to anyone
Jumping–am extremely inhibited
Riding a horse–am mildly inhibited but tend to trust men
Swimming–am trusting and uninhibited
Wading–am trusting and uninhibited
Walking on a fallen tree–am mildly inhibited and feel hurt by men
Walking on a log–am mildly inhibited and enjoy the company of men
Walking on rocks–am mildly inhibited and am aware of problems here
4. Concerning intimate or sexual matters, I_____________________.
The closer you are to the water the more you trust intimacy or sex. The farther away you are the more you fear or avoid intimacy with people.
5. What does the water look like?
Black – sadness
Bloody – someone's incest
Blue, clear – absolute enjoyment
Blue, murky – feeling deceived
Fecal – feeling depreciated and contaminated by someone
Gray – confusion
Muddy – feeling depreciated and deceived by someone
5. In the intimate or sexual sphere, I am dealing with issues of ________________________________.
6. How fast is the current? ________________________
Fast, white water – am impulsive and excited by it
Moderate – am excited but somewhat cautious
Slow – I enjoy it and take my time
Stagnant – I don't enjoy it because I feel trapped by someone
6. When I think of intimacy or sex, I ___________________________.
7. Is there anything in the water? If so, what? _________________________________________________
Alligator – that I am a victim of someone
Twigs, leaves – that I am a victim and a part of me is missing
Fish, goldfish – that sex is fun but has its price
Fish, piranha – that I am a victim of someone
Snakes – of someone being hurt by men
7. … and there are feelings__________________________.
Pleasant images describe pleasant feelings; the opposite is true, as well.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
this by no means an all inclusive profile in my opinion, but it did give me some interesting asecpts to consider> just wanted to share it.
_________________
"Though no one can go back and make a brand new start, we can all start from now and make a brand new ending"
~Carl Bard
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you know clean, maybe im doing better than i think on this....maybe all these violent images of struggling to get away from a man who was trying to abuse me sexually when i was a child are just in my head...because when i did this visualization excercise in my head, i did ok. the water was clear, it was rushing, fast white water, very lound. kind of scary...i disregarded swimming because i knew that there was a perilous waterfall right downstream and i did not trust that i could make it....so i stepped over some big stones to get over. there was nothing else in the water other than lots of stones and boulders and rocks everywhere.
_________________
I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing. John 15:5
He that getteth wisdom loveth his own soul: He that keepeth understanding shall find good. Proverbs 19:8
The Lord is close to the brokenhearted and saves those who are crushed in spirit. Psalm 34:18
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maybe those stones and rocks can be interpreted as stumbling blocks or stepping stones....your chooseing to use them as stepping stones tells me in my mind that you are no longer a victim but ready and willing to take your power back and use "stuggles" as a way to learn and grow into all you can be.
Free also be careful that you use this "overview" as a tool and not a be all end all conclusion. it is one of many ways to open the psyche. and should be explored as one of many pathways to healing. I am sure my answers 10 years ago would have revealed a very different picture....
and maybe 10 years from now yours will too. keep the faith that for right now you are exactly where you are suppose to be
_________________
"Though no one can go back and make a brand new start, we can all start from now and make a brand new ending"
~Carl Bard
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I found your exercise above to be quite "to the point" about myself, particularly with the muddy water; "feeling depreciated and deciieved by someone", and twigs leaves in the water "that I am a vicitm and part of me is missing". The victim is something I have tried to work on many times as I am strongly aware that as long as I hold myself in the role of victim I cannot heal. I am a lot better and stronger about my sexual abuse issues than I used to be, hower I guess there is still some pretty deep rooted stuff I need to work on. I was abused by my father from the age of 4 until 12, was raped at 14 and again at 17. I was a very promiscous teenager and again during single times as an adult. Having thought about it in the here and now, I don't think those things of me upset me I think it's more to the point that they inhibited me emotionally and that is the area of me that stongly requires attention.
I learnt to use sex as a tool a long time ago, actually I used "MY body" as a tool a long time ago, probably because it was used as a tool by others first. My emotions are often stuck in the 12 to 15 year old bracket, I guess it was time I strongly worked at forgiveness of self and others to release that girl in me that is so hurt, so defensive and so very angry and full of rage.....I hide it well for ages then it blows out of control.
Anyway, thank's for letting me share.
_________________
felicity
for every negative there is always a positive, seek and ye shall find it.................................
Optimism is essential to achievement and it is also the foundation of
courage and true progress.
-- Nicholas Murray Butler